you have worked in other cities. you brought down murder rates in other cities. what is it about chicago that makes this awful figure possible, 500 murders in one year? >> well, there's a number of things. first of all, as is rightly identified, it's about the gang conflicts. and the second thing that really is overwhelming is the number of firearms in this city. as mr. pollack just said, last time i checked, that number was nine guns for every one that new york city took off the street. but the fact that -- we took nine for every one that new york city took off the street. and the fact is while people talk about strict gun laws in the state of illinois, i don't believe that to be the case. i think new york has a three-year mandatory minimum for possession of a firearm. look at an example like plaxico burress, he got two years in jail for shooting himself. those are not the type of sentences we see here in the state of illinois, certainly not in the city of chicago. we have to do better with that. >> when you hear people say, no, we don't need to examine our gun